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Subject: Cracks at The Grande

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Brian
Posts:2614

05/12/2008 1:24 PM Alert 
Posted By jpinpb on 05/12/2008 1:13 PM
Do 1/1 rent for 2100 for real??!!



Consider that HOA fees are $625 + property taxes ~ $600.  That doesn't leave much money for debt servicing. 

I find that for downtown, $3000/mo and up in rent will get you the best value for your money (relative to what you would pay to buy).  For that money you can rent a condo "valued" at $1 million or more.


Brian
Posts:2614

05/19/2008 12:46 PM Alert 
I remember someone calling a bottom and saying that The Grande was increasing and that Acqua Vista is a good buy.
It's certainly not what the data is showing.

Look at this unit owned by a trifecta of investment losers.

http://www.sdlookup.com/Property-FD89916F-1199_Pacific_Hwy_306_San_Diego_CA_92101


Brian
Posts:2614

06/18/2008 9:51 AM Alert 
Here's a flipper in trouble at The Grande.
In 2007, he saw value that really wasn't there, and now he's find out the hard way.


1199_Pacific_Hwy_2403_San_Diego_CA_92101


Brian
Posts:2614

06/18/2008 9:56 AM Alert 
I'm willing to bet that #2106 at The Grande will get an NOD and sell well below 2005 purchase price.

Time will tell.....


1199_Pacific_Hwy_2106_San_Diego_CA_92101


Brian
Posts:2614

06/23/2008 4:10 PM Alert 
#2003 now in foreclosure and $116k below original 2005 Bosa price.

The foreclosures and distress sales are piling up at El Grande.


1205_Pacific_Hwy_2003_San_Diego_CA_92101
Brian
Posts:2614

07/03/2008 4:38 PM Alert 
#2004

Now $60,000 below 1/2006 purchase price. I guess the flip after two years, tax free, strategy didn't pan out.
Of course, it's tax free, because there's no profit. ;)


1205_Pacific_Hwy_2004_San_Diego_CA_92101



wilson
Posts:670

07/03/2008 7:18 PM Alert 
This is hardly big news. #2204 is higher floor and listed for $30k less.
613867
Posts:62

07/03/2008 7:37 PM Alert 
Brian-it sounds like you are both a renter and owner of a home you bought in 1989. So you are both an exploiter and exploited (renter and landlord). Here is a recommendation that would be consistent with the stands that you take. 1) sell your home. if you choose, you can buy it back at some later date and a price which is substantially lower than its current market value. this summer is the last big sellers opportunity to dump your house before the big debacle. 2) Quit yelling about brokers. You and a lot of people in this forum are very bright real estate people. Why do you not have a brokers liscense??? You save half of the commission on the sale of your property and earn half the commission on the purchase of a property. it also puts you in a position to buy a foreclosure at a flip price in the off season (nov-april), put some lipstick on the pig, and make a profit in the silly season (spring and summer). Brokers in san diego between 1999 and 2006 were among the worlds most overpaid "professionals". You can beat them by joining them.
Brian
Posts:2614

07/03/2008 9:03 PM Alert 
613867, what makes you think that I'm not doing what you're suggesting?

As far as selling my rentals, I have low cost and tax basis and good tenants so no I'm not selling. My 1989 house was a mistake that turned out good thanks to the latest boom. It's my lucky charm that reminds me of the cyclicality of real estate. It's in a nice suburban location and I might retire there one day.

Just because I like to poke fun at other people doesn't mean that I can't laugh at myself also. ;)

Smart business people sell the opium to make a profit but wouldn't smoke it themselves.


Brian
Posts:2614

07/03/2008 9:06 PM Alert 
Posted By wilson on 07/03/2008 7:18 PM
This is hardly big news. #2204 is higher floor and listed for $30k less.



Thanks for pointing it out. That makes #2004 even more overpriced.

This thread is nothing that people can't find out of their own -- just a summary of the cracks in one of best urban buildings in San Diego.
613867
Posts:62

07/04/2008 9:30 AM Alert 
Brian-buying and selling your own real estate isn't smoking opium. Its saving $15,000+/- when you list your own property and reducing your equity requirement by $15,000+/- when you buy a property. It is easy money. Along the way you can even save your friends some money by rebating part of your commission when they buy or sell. Also easy money. $15,000 here, $7,500 there, pretty soon you have $100,000. Not bad. Some pain but big gain.
wilson
Posts:670

07/04/2008 9:50 AM Alert 
Sorry, I thought this thread was more about giving more significant, relevant information rather than quantity of less signiificant info.
Brian
Posts:2614

07/04/2008 10:12 AM Alert 
Posted By 613867 on 07/04/2008 9:30 AM
Brian-buying and selling your own real estate isn't smoking opium.


I was referring to your comment to quit yelling about brokers. I'm not yelling about them -- just pointing out that their smoke their own opium.

Like this one: 650_Columbia_St_418_San_Diego_CA_92101
Brian
Posts:2614

07/04/2008 10:17 AM Alert 
Wilson, what is not significant to you might be for someone else who reads this thread for the first time. I aim this thread to be a compendium of losses at The Grande to counter the arguments that the best addresses Downtown are increasing in value. It's all connected.... all the neighborhoods will lose value.

wilson
Posts:670

07/04/2008 10:50 AM Alert 
Less is more.
Brian
Posts:2614

07/11/2008 12:57 PM Alert 
Who says prices are increasing on the bay?

1205_Pacific_Hwy_702_San_Diego_CA_92101

Brian
Posts:2614

07/11/2008 1:03 PM Alert 
Below Bosa price and still not selling. This one looks like another foreclosure in the making.


1205_Pacific_Hwy_803_San_Diego_CA_92101

wilson
Posts:670

07/11/2008 1:39 PM Alert 
THE SKY IF FALLING!!! THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!
-quote from ultra-bear

I posted this on another thread also because all I see is the same stuff over and over again.
Brian
Posts:2614

07/11/2008 2:17 PM Alert 
This is a compendium of losses at The Grande. Each unit is different.

Another one bites the dust at The Grande.

1205_Pacific_Hwy_1902_San_Diego_CA_92101

Brian
Posts:2614

07/16/2008 12:53 PM Alert 
#1404 is going well below previous purchase price and near original Bosa price.


1199_Pacific_Hwy_1404_San_Diego_CA_92101


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