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Subject: Bohemia Downtown/Logan Heights

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Daniel

12/23/2007 12:08 AM Alert 
I drove by the Bohemia project. Nice looking.

But would anyone be out of their minds and pay a premium to live in that wasteland?

1) There's the homeless shelter in that part of East Village and the homeless people are loitering all around that area. It's not the homeless' problem. They need a place to go. But it's certainly not a luxury area. Those few blocks look like the Gaza strip!!

2) That part of the city is less Downtown, and more Logan Heights full of dilapidated homes. I don't think that area of the city won't come back to life for AT LEAST another 10 years. Would anyone be patient enough to wait 10 years to 20 years. That's a whole generation. Well, I might be for a very rock bottom LOW price.

http://www.sigsbeerow.com/
Anonymous

12/23/2007 7:49 AM Alert 
Here are two listings at Bohemia. It looks like they were lumped together with another condo conversion development in 92113. But this one is new.
Who would pay those price to live in Logan Heights? Absolutely ridiculous!!! If people actually pay $1 million ($512 PPSF), they deserve to lose their shirts.


http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-076080672-1702_National_Ave_14_San_Diego_CA_92113


 




http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-076083812-1710_Sigsbee_San_Diego_CA_92113

RottedOak
Posts:30

12/23/2007 8:02 AM Alert 
The website describes this project as "just four blocks from Petco Park." Unfortunately, those are the wrong four blocks! With a rail yard and commercial shipping terminal nearby, I'm surprised it doesn't say "convenient to transportation."
guest

12/23/2007 8:30 AM Alert 
The developer, California Equities, used to have an office on 16th Ave, a few blocks away. It closed a few months ago. (not a good sign) I'm guessing these units will be rentals by mid 08'.

I agree that it will be at least another 10 years before that area improves. Many of the lots in that area are for sale. The big empty lot across the street from the Trolley maintenance yard has an interested buyer. They want to put in a small retail mall/condo project.
Brian
Posts:2234

12/23/2007 1:31 PM Alert 
I'm afraid that Logan Heights 92113 has the worse reputation of any zip code in San Diego. It will take a lot of courage (and stupidity) to spend 1 million bucks in that neighborhood.

Smith
Posts:44

12/23/2007 2:46 PM Alert 
Cool project but I agree with Brian that it's too much money for going into the frontier.

I would be willing to move into that area for the right situation however.
Anonymous

12/27/2007 10:01 AM Alert 
Here's a listing advertised on the MLS as in 92101. But it's in 92113. Misleading. But will it be effective?


http://www.sdlookup.com/MLS-076096294-1702_National_Ave_San_Diego_CA_92101


Anonymous

12/27/2007 10:07 AM Alert 
Could be what is called a "shadow listing", when a property is close to a different zip code there is a way to advertise as shadow. This should be more clear though if that is what is going on...

I do like this project, I live downtown and walk around a lot. Probably this weekend I will be walking to this project to check it out.
Anonymous

12/27/2007 1:32 PM Alert 
Please do walk to that area and let us know. I drove there and there were plenty of homeless people loitering around for a few blocks from the winter shelter (is that what that big tent is?).

I personally am not afraid of the homeless (they are harmless). But I certainly don't recommend walking to that neighborhood in your Dolce Gabanna best.

I like that project a lot also. But not for that kind of money, and not in that kind of neighborhood.
Johnny Alpha

12/28/2007 9:19 AM Alert 
If you are going to be walking around this area I would suggest packing heat as a precaution against all the derelicts and homeboys who call this neighborhood home.
Anonymous

12/28/2007 2:17 PM Alert 
I don't think it's THAT bad. I actually think I've been there already as I got my car towed a few months ago and they brought it to an impound lot in that area. I walked to get the car as I obviously didn't have a car.

PS, careful where you park as it's $350 to get your car back.
tijknha
Posts:21

12/28/2007 4:01 PM Alert 
I walked to Brown's cafe there one weekend. I was surprised at the amount of broken windshield glass on the road in one particular street. Obviously there were quite a large number of vehicle break ins....
tijknha
Posts:21

12/28/2007 4:02 PM Alert 
Check out the crime maps for your area...

http://mapping.arjis.org/default.aspx
Brian
Posts:2234

08/11/2008 2:07 PM Alert 
$100k reduction, but way too much for this part of Barrio Logan.

from $725k to $625K???!! $300k is more like it for this part of town.


MLS-076096304-1710_National_Ave_5_San_Diego_Ca_92101


Here's the related thread discussing the developer's troubles.

Tower on 5th NOD



Brian
Posts:2234

08/11/2008 2:09 PM Alert 
Here is the
related Barrio Logan thread

harpca
Posts:82

08/11/2008 4:13 PM Alert 
Posted By n/a on 12/27/2007 1:32 PM
Please do walk to that area and let us know. I drove there and there were plenty of homeless people loitering around for a few blocks from the winter shelter (is that what that big tent is?).

I personally am not afraid of the homeless (they are harmless). But I certainly don't recommend walking to that neighborhood in your Dolce Gabanna best.

I like that project a lot also. But not for that kind of money, and not in that kind of neighborhood.




I wouldn't live there PERIOD. One time I was just passing by. Parked my car and starting walk to cross the street with a crazy homeless man cursing me out for being the wrong race in the wrong neighborhood.
hpdrifter
Posts:13

08/11/2008 5:47 PM Alert 
Does anyone know how many, if any, of these units have sold? I know they are offering a lease option program right now but was curious if they were able to sell any of them prior.
jqcoffey
Posts:24

08/11/2008 10:06 PM Alert 
"I wouldn't live there PERIOD. One time I was just passing by. Parked my car and starting walk to cross the street with a crazy homeless man cursing me out for being the wrong race in the wrong neighborhood."

Uh, have you ever been in PB on a Thursday, Friday or Saturday night? Drunk 20 somethings cursing at you are just as, if not more, scary than some mentally unstable malnourished homeless person. And I say that having been that 20 something drunk, /and/ having grown up dealing with mentally unstable homeless people while navigating my way to school in Berkeley as a kid.

"Personal safety" is so completely overrated. Even living in a "questionable" neighborhood your chances of having something "unfortunate" happen to you are fairly slim.

Of course Logan Heights and its environs are not exactly what anyone might confuse with a "nice neighborhood," but I'd honestly rather live on a better block in it than on the best scary (yes suburbs scare me) suburban block in "prestigious west-end University City" or the like.

Hey, to each his own.

-Justin
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